Comments for MMJ http://blog.meta-markets.com Meta-Markets Journal Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:07:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 Comment on Meta-Markets Mini Re-design by ozan http://blog.meta-markets.com/meta-markets-mini-re-design/#comment-4558 ozan Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:49:07 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/meta-markets-mini-re-design/#comment-4558 About the stock holdings pane, I just love that kind of stuff, but the only thing my eyes were looking for is the capability to change the order by clicking on Issuer, Stocks, amount, price and cost like in most torrent sites for getting the most seeded ones. And maybe there would be some way to see when this ipo being sold, so that we can see an order from the neweset to oldest shares. I must say that this refreshening made me come back again after weeks. About the stock holdings pane, I just love that kind of stuff, but the only thing my eyes were looking for is the capability to change the order by clicking on Issuer, Stocks, amount, price and cost like in most torrent sites for getting the most seeded ones. And maybe there would be some way to see when this ipo being sold, so that we can see an order from the neweset to oldest shares.

I must say that this refreshening made me come back again after weeks.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by engin http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2127 engin Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:39:20 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2127 <blockquote>Well I think most of the time we are aware that we generate value in our communications. The problem starts when this value is exploited.</blockquote> This is exactly my point. And I think, this exploitation can happen both ways (facilitator/participant) as long as there is heightened awareness of value. Not sure about the office party.

Well I think most of the time we are aware that we generate value in our communications. The problem starts when this value is exploited.

This is exactly my point. And I think, this exploitation can happen both ways (facilitator/participant) as long as there is heightened awareness of value.

Not sure about the office party.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by arikan http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2062 arikan Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:03:12 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2062 It may not be different than attending to an office party, if this is what you mean with natural. Well I think most of the time we are aware that we generate value in our communications. The problem starts when this value is exploited. It may not be different than attending to an office party, if this is what you mean with natural.

Well I think most of the time we are aware that we generate value in our communications. The problem starts when this value is exploited.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by engin http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2052 engin Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:28:27 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2052 Yes it is only natural to participate. Apparently the point did not get across. Let me try again. If participants participate with the intention of generating value (as opposed to reacting to content), would the participation be still natural? A lot of 'participation' here. Yes it is only natural to participate. Apparently the point did not get across. Let me try again.

If participants participate with the intention of generating value (as opposed to reacting to content), would the participation be still natural?

A lot of ‘participation’ here.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by arikan http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2021 arikan Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:32:11 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-2021 <blockquote> If the value of each participation is tangible, meaning that if each comment, tag etc is intentionally trying to promote content, would it train users to be immune to it and eventually kill its purpose? </blockquote> Immune to what? participation? It is not an illness. We paticipate / communicate by nature, that's why majority of the people don't care about their social interaction being a sort of work. If you write to my wall I am happy to write to your wall etc.

If the value of each participation is tangible, meaning that if each comment, tag etc is intentionally trying to promote content, would it train users to be immune to it and eventually kill its purpose?

Immune to what? participation? It is not an illness. We paticipate / communicate by nature, that’s why majority of the people don’t care about their social interaction being a sort of work. If you write to my wall I am happy to write to your wall etc.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by engin http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1947 engin Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:03:18 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1947 <blockquote>The content (photos, videos, bookmarks etc.) we upload to social services is just a part of the total work we do on these services. What else we do? We comment, vote, forward, mix, tag, rewrite, refine, fix, recommend, we create a public opinion and public interest. This type of work makes the spectacle.</blockquote> This is an interesting remark. Right now, I would say most of comments, votes, tags etc. is based on reaction on content - meaning, the intention is not to glorify or mortify the content but to react to it on an individual scale. If the value of each participation is tangible, meaning that if each comment, tag etc is intentionally trying to promote content, would it train users to be immune to it and eventually kill its purpose? This reminds me of Ebert&Roeper, the two guys who give thumbs-up to every single horrible flick.

The content (photos, videos, bookmarks etc.) we upload to social services is just a part of the total work we do on these services. What else we do? We comment, vote, forward, mix, tag, rewrite, refine, fix, recommend, we create a public opinion and public interest. This type of work makes the spectacle.

This is an interesting remark. Right now, I would say most of comments, votes, tags etc. is based on reaction on content - meaning, the intention is not to glorify or mortify the content but to react to it on an individual scale.

If the value of each participation is tangible, meaning that if each comment, tag etc is intentionally trying to promote content, would it train users to be immune to it and eventually kill its purpose? This reminds me of Ebert&Roeper, the two guys who give thumbs-up to every single horrible flick.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by arikan http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1900 arikan Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:51:03 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1900 :) water cooler exactly! These days anyone can start a social web service it seems, such a profitable market! All you do is capture/reflect a real social network and provide tools to manage the connections. Here is another conference on graphing social patterns http://graphingsocial.com/ :) water cooler exactly!

These days anyone can start a social web service it seems, such a profitable market! All you do is capture/reflect a real social network and provide tools to manage the connections.

Here is another conference on graphing social patterns
http://graphingsocial.com/

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by Greg J. Smith http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1895 Greg J. Smith Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:58:00 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1895 <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/12/decentralizing.html" rel="nofollow">Battling Social Network Fatigue ... By Going Open</a> - A recent O'Reilly Radar post by David Recordon on the social media landscape post OpenSocial announcement. Lots of good links to emerging aggregator/lifestreaming services. I think this thread is becoming the "water cooler" of Meta-Markets! Battling Social Network Fatigue … By Going Open - A recent O’Reilly Radar post by David Recordon on the social media landscape post OpenSocial announcement. Lots of good links to emerging aggregator/lifestreaming services.

I think this thread is becoming the “water cooler” of Meta-Markets!

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by arikan http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1838 arikan Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:29:56 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1838 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=TjbF_qRdIyM" rel="nofollow">YouTube recently announced</a> that they will pay their users based on their videos’ views, that is the AdSense advertising revenue associated with your videos on the site. Is this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/partners" rel="nofollow">Partner Program</a> promising? I think it is a good step to give something back for people’s intellectual labor, but lets take a closer look at it. The content (photos, videos, bookmarks etc.) we upload to social services is just a part of the total work we do on these services. What else we do? We comment, vote, forward, mix, tag, rewrite, refine, fix, recommend, we create a public opinion and public interest. This type of work makes the spectacle. This is <a href="http://blog.burak-arikan.com/i-sell-my-facebook-profile-on-meta-markets/" rel="nofollow">the spectacle that is digitally measurable</a> only by the service providers themselves. I feel like YouTube Partner Program is just hiding this second type of work that we do on these social services. YouTube recently announced that they will pay their users based on their videos’ views, that is the AdSense advertising revenue associated with your videos on the site. Is this Partner Program promising? I think it is a good step to give something back for people’s intellectual labor, but lets take a closer look at it.

The content (photos, videos, bookmarks etc.) we upload to social services is just a part of the total work we do on these services. What else we do? We comment, vote, forward, mix, tag, rewrite, refine, fix, recommend, we create a public opinion and public interest. This type of work makes the spectacle. This is the spectacle that is digitally measurable only by the service providers themselves.

I feel like YouTube Partner Program is just hiding this second type of work that we do on these social services.

]]> Comment on OpenSocial To Expand Meta-Markets? by Greg J. Smith http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1787 Greg J. Smith Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:46:01 +0000 http://blog.meta-markets.com/opensocial-to-expand-meta-markets/#comment-1787 <blockquote>So, how about quantifying how much value a user brings to a service, since the content is the user now? What does the user get for generating all these advertising revenues?</blockquote> That is the 64 Million Dollar question! Or if we use the Google Adsense model based off the number of clickthroughs per thousand page impression this post has received: That is the .02 question! If compensation for "social work" starts to be utilized will it actually relate to the amount of value the users input contributes to the environment, or will it just be a token gesture.

So, how about quantifying how much value a user brings to a service, since the content is the user now? What does the user get for generating all these advertising revenues?

That is the 64 Million Dollar question! Or if we use the Google Adsense model based off the number of clickthroughs per thousand page impression this post has received: That is the .02 question! If compensation for “social work” starts to be utilized will it actually relate to the amount of value the users input contributes to the environment, or will it just be a token gesture.

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